Mimosa Letters

{{ We thought fewer articles last issue might well translate to fewer letters of comment, but we were wrong -- not only were there more than 70 respondents, we also received maybe 60 different fanzine titles in trade. Needless to eay, we're gratified by the response. The articles that seemed to generate the most mail were Dave Kyle's remembrance of the first Worldcon, "The Great Exclusion Act of 1939", and Bruno Ogorelec's autobiographical "Great Jumping Grandmothers -- A Cautionary Tale of Female Emancipation". First up is a sampling of comments about these articles...}}

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Harry Warner, Jr., Hagerstown, Maryland
The new Mimosa gave me a lot of pleasant reading, plus a sort of patriotic pride to find Maryland so well represented among the creators and contributors. Maybe this state is entering a fantastic period of fanac that will some day be compared with Irish Fandom.

Naturally, as a lapsed fan historian, I took a lot of interest in Dave Kyle's article. The reprint of the complete document that caused so much trouble at the first Worldcon is something that should have been done long ago. I remember years ago coming across my copy (a much-rumpled one which either Fred Pohl or Jack Gillespie retrieved from a hip pocket and presented to me the time they hitchhiked to pay me a visit shortly after the con) and thinking it was a seminal document that should be made available in print in complete form from time to time. I do wish, though, that Dave had told us who did the actual writing. I can't remember anyone having claimed authorship and I can't figure out from re-reading the identity of the author on stylistic grounds. It sounds as if it might have been a collaboration with two or more Futurians helping out.

I'm glad you ignored your length limitations for once and published Bruno Ogorelec's article in complete form. It's the sort of article that will stick in my mind long after most of the contents of the fanzines I read in 1989 are jumbled together in a homogeneous mass. It's so different from most fanzine material in subject matter, so thorough in its characterization of an entire family, so warmly humorous. If the FAAn awards still existed, it would deserve one. And the strangest thing about the article is that the events described in it seemed familiar to me, four or five thousand miles away from its setting. The excitement when science fiction became available in greater quantities in Yugoslavia a generation or two ago wasn't too different from the way it was when I was a boy and could find it almost nowhere but in the three prozines published each month, followed by the elation that came when dozens of new prozine titles began to be published.

{{ Like the commercial says -- sometimes you gotta break the rules. Bruno's article was just one of those cases. We're glad that so many people enjoyed it, and we'll run longer articies a little more often now. }}

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Taras Wolansky, Jersey City, New Jersey
Mimosa #6 was outstanding! {{ Thanks! }} I picked it up at Noreascon, mainly because I noticed it had the text of Dave Kyle's "evil, communistic" pamphlet of 1939, which I've wanted to get for a couple of years.

It turns out, I see, that Kyle's pamphlet was neither evil not communistic -- just libelous! I don't think I buy Kyle's argument that Moskowitz made the pamphlet sound worse than it really was, by selectively excerpting it in The Immortal Storm: some of the stuff left out was as bad as the quoted material. On the other hand, Moskowitz did leave out one paragraph ("The Newark Revolution") which might have embarrassed him.

Speaking of communists, what propels Mimosa 6 into the fannish stratosphere is Bruno Ogorelec's wonderful memoir, "Great Jumping Grandmothers". This has got to be one of the best things I've ever read in a fanzine. (Teddy Harvia's illos fit the text beautifully, too.)

It made me think of my own East European roots, in Ukraine. I'm also the descendant of priests, only in my case it was all legit and in the male line: Ukrainian Catholic priests could marry, at the time.

Bruno's account of the difficulties in obtaining SF in Yugoslavia reminded me of how my father discovered Edgar Rice Burroughs: a Polish translation of The Return of Tarzan was serving as toilet paper in the outhouse. My father remembers spending hours there reading ahead, while people banged on the door and yelled, "Hey! What are you doing in there!"

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Kev McVeigh, Milnthorpe, Cumbria, United Kingdom
The piece about the first Worldcon all seems rather petty now at this distant time, but at the same time it shows up a disturbing phenomena in U.S. culture which seems to still be present.

From here, and I may have a distorted view, it seems that there is an effective "ban" on socialists through the McCarthy legacy. I have a copy of The Book of Lists, which includes "20 U.S. Cities which have Elected Socialists to Public Office". I don't know what they include in "Public Office," but still, the fact that this list is worth printing says a lot to me. {{ ed. note: "Public Office" here is any position in the city, county, state, or national government that a person must run and be elected to, rather than being simply appointed. }} Why is it that so few socialists achieve success in the U.S.? Is it a result of propaganda and anti-Soviet paranoia? Whatever its cause, the effect seems not far short of the one party system of Eastern Europe in preventing real change.

{{ It probably goes a lot farther back than that. The original colonists of the New World were mostly individualists who were looking for a better life; much of the westward expansion was by so-called "rugged individualists" who apparently did not want or need any government interference in their lives. Later, the mythos of "Yankee Ingenuity" arose, which again promoted the values of individualism, with the carrot of potential personal wealth for a good new idea (i.e., "Build a Better Mousetrap and the World Will Beat a Path to your Door"). In short, this country is based on the concept of individualism -- always has been and probably always will be. Socialism, even something as beneficial as social safety nets like Social Security, Medicare, and the proposed National Health Insurance has always tended to rub people the wrong way. The McCarthy era seems therefore a symptom (a reactionary one, admittedly) and not a cause of the general lack of success of Socialist candidates for political office here. We're interested in other's views of this, particularly from other countries like Australia and Canada with similar histories. }}

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Michael Sherck, South Bend, Indiana
I especially enjoyed Dave Kyle's article "The Great Exclusion Act of 1939". Having previously read about early fandom (Fred Pohl's The Way the Future Was and Damon Knight's The Futurians primarily) had left some curiosity about those days and it was quite interesting to have some light shed on the subject. I don't suppose the principals are too awfully interested anymore but I thoroughly enjoyed that little piece of fannish history.

Mr. Ogorelec's family's experiences with SF were interesting. Having been the recent recipient of a portion of a grandmotherly woman's SF collection myself, however, I wonder whether this might not be a somewhat more widespread phenomenon than is otherwise noticed. I suppose that it is entirely possible that there are whole legions of elderly ladies out there with bulging collections of vintage SF.

{{ We know for a fact that's true. Some years ago, Dick was able to acquire a large number of old SF digest magazines from someone who was cleaning out his grandmother's attic and who heard through a mutual friend that we might be interested in buying them. Included in the stack were the first four issues of F&SF, plus issues of Galaxy and Astounding from the early 1950s. All were in excellent condition, and the purchase price averaged out to 45¢ per issue. The fellow told Dick he had almost thrown them away, a fate that any number of similar collections of long-time readers of SF have undoubtedly been unable to escape. }}

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Dave Rowe, Franklin, Indiana
Oddly enough, back around '72 I happened to see Sam Moskowitz and Don Wollheim greeting each other (at a London Circle/Globe meet, of all places). Their attitudes 33 years after the exclusion act were still curt, artificial, and icy.

As much as fandom "owes" Sam for writing the first history of fandom, his lack of reticence worries me. Although The Immortal Storm started in Fantasy Commentator in 1945 before the McCarthy era, it went on till '52 when the witch hunts were well underway. Didn't Sam realize that if an overzealous petty politician had gotten wind that there were dirty little commies involved in that kids-stuff SF, all hell would have broken loose? Surely it would have been better to have halted the series until more liberal times prevailed. As Arthur Clarke has pointed out, science fiction was about the only branch of entertainment to escape the McCarthy witch hunts (mainly because at that time it was generally thought to be beneath contempt), it's also fair to note another truth Arthur pointed to -- if it ever happens again, SF will not be so lucky.

{{ Let's hope we've reached the point that it never happens again. Is it really fair to blame Moskowitz for not being intimidated by McCarthy-ites, though? When he started his series, he could hardly have predicted what was to occur, and part of the reason for the downfall of McCarthy was certain individuals deciding not to be intimidated by him. As to whether Moskowitz and Wollheim are on friendly terms, though, read on... }}

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Sam Moskowitz, Newark, New Jersey
I would like to make a few additions, revisions and corrections to Kyle's presentation. First, Dave's statement: "But I forgive him even though others haven't after all these years." Of the six who would be barred from the First World Convention, Cyril Kornbluth and John B. Michel have passed on and I was on a very friendly basis with both of them before their deaths, Kornbluth appearing as a guest speaker for me at the Eastern Science Fiction Association in 1958 ... Michel loaned me his mimeograph to put out my fan mag, Different, dated December 1945.

I don't know whatever became of Jack Gillespie.

Further, I regard Robert Lowndes as a close friend that I had no compunction with helping him obtain a position with Gernsback Publications when his Magazine of Horror collapsed. He has been over to my house on several occasions for very friendly get togethers. He paid me for consultation when he was editing the fantasy magazines.

I have been on excellent terms with Donald A. Wollheim ever since the forties, have visited him at his home and he has graciously responded to my requests that he be a guest speaker at the Eastern Science Fiction Association on a number of occasions, paying all his own expenses and providing his own transportation. Just three days before writing this letter I visited him at the Manhattan hospital where he is recuperating from a stroke suffered in 1988. I am on a very friendly basis and have always been with his wife Elsie and his daughter Betsy, both of whom are lovely people, and recently met Betsy's husband Peter and her baby Zoe. Fred Pohl bought a dozen articles from me when he was editing Worlds of Tomorrow.

I regard myself as being on a very friendly basis with Dave, his wife Ruth, and his daughter Kerry for many years, and I wonder why he had to forgive me. After all, I did let him into the convention!

{{ Sam's letter goes on at great length from here (10 pages!) and in great detail about events leading up to that first WorldCon, re-presenting his version of these events (as originally related in his book The Immortal Storm) in refutation of Dave's version. Since there still, after 50 years, seems to be plenty of hard feelings left over about this incident, perhaps we should present our stance on this still-controversial topic. Simply put, we have no interest in re-opening a 50 year old feud; indeed, we had no idea that this was still a touchy subject after all this time -- we saw Sam, Dave, Don Wollheim, Fred Pohl, and others on a fan history panel at the Atlanta Worldcon, and everyone seemed to be getting along just fine. In any event, what interests us about articles like this is the fan history aspects; it's obvious from the mail we've received that most fans have never seen, or even heard of, the Pamphlet. In our opinion, while it is a bit of fannish history, it's had little effect on fandom outside the region where it happened so many years ago. If it had any effect on Southern Fandom, for example, it would be pretty hard to trace. We also don't know if it had an effect on the fandoms outside the U.S. but we do feel it's an important bit of fan history that deserved being revisited, fifty years after its transpiration. As for events surrounding the Pamphlet and the First Worldcon, we suggest that readers acquire The Immortal Storm, The Way the Future Was, The Futurians, and other fan history references, and to make up their own minds as to what did or didn't actually happen. }}

{{ ed. note (2015): The 10-page letter was later published in its entirety by one Sam's friends, Norm Metcalf of Boulder, Colorado. }}

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Lloyd Penney, Brampton, Ontario, Canada
I've read about the exclusion of those fans from the first Worldcon in two other publications -- Fred Pohl's The Way the Future Was, and as Mr. Kyle states, Sam Moskowitz's The Immortal Storm. I have to be amazed that there is still the controversy, the disputation, the anger, and the hard feelings surrounding this event after fifty years. {{ Us too. }} In this later age, the fact that there's further discussion and revelation makes me wonder how those feelings can last after 50 years of what I thought would be resolution and patching-up. Feuding and fannish politics seem harsh to many in my own circles today, but if that length of time cannot let those involved forget or forgive, then our own conflicts are mild indeed.

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Janice Murray, Seattle, Washington
I was fascinated by Mr. Kyle's article about 1939 Worldcon politics. Gee, I had no idea the crap I went through with Norwescon in 1980 had such a rich fannish historical precedent.

{{ We've been through a few of those ourselves. }}

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Walt Willis, Donaghadee, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom
Thank you for Mimosa 6. I hope you know what you're doing, printing that article by Dave Kyle. {{ Apparently we didn't! }} It makes the Great Exclusion Act as interestingly controversial as any of the great events in mundane history. Many people think that history just sort of lies there, everything agreed on and all the loose ends tidied up. But if you read different books on, say, the French Revolution, you realise that controversy is still raging about every episode and character. What is going to happen as a result of Dave's article is that you will get an indignant and copiously documented rebuttal from Sam Moskowitz which you will feel morally obligated to print; other readers will take sides and once again All Fandom Will Be Plunged Into War. Oh well, it was nice knowing you.

The whole fanzine was good, but to my mind the article by Bruno Ogorelec was outstanding. His experiences are at once so similar and so startlingly different from what is typical here, that one feels simultaneously both sympathy and astonishment. And all that about the fan gene descending the female line...incredible. It leaves me feeling that one would almost believe Bruno if he told us that his country was really called Hugoslavia, after Gernsback. Anyway, it was pretty nearly an ideal fanzine article. Congratulations.

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Russell Chauvenet, Silver Spring, Maryland
Thanx a lot for Mimosa 5 and 6. It was especially nice to have 5 on hand while reading the locs in 6. The absolute ★ of ★★★ was Bruno Ogorelec. At my age I never expected to read any fanzine article a tenth as gripping and fascinating as his Cautionary Tale. As soon as I can find my father's old Serbian dictionary, I'm going to write him a letter.

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Debi Metcalf, Nyack, New York
I'm glad you decided to run Bruno Ogorelec's article. I found it interesting, well done, and the allusions to Dune amusing. Then it occurred to me that this wasn't written in the man's native language...

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David Palter, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I have seen letters from Bruno Ogorelec in various fanzines before, and I had wondered how he had managed to become an SF fan in Yugoslavia. Having not read the history of his discovery of the genre, I must say that it is both stranger and more interesting than I had remotely expected. Aside from the inherent oddities of the narrative itself, I must also remark on Bruno's writing, which is excellent by any standard. This is even more impressive as a display of his command of English. Of course, it is logical that he should have developed such a knowledge of English, given the quantity of English-language SF he has read. Fandom does have its educational side-effects, without a doubt.

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Richard Brandt, El Paso, Texas
Interesting fanhistory notes this issue -- especially from Dave Kyle. Sam Moskowitz has been arguing heatedly and effectively for the depth and validity of his research; the issue of how his biases affect his conclusions, or indeed what he selects to present as history, is perhaps more at issue.

{{ Sam's book is undoubtedly influenced by his personal recollections, so it is not unexpected that he would add his own spin to events he chronicled, just as Dave has in his. }}

Bruno's article is quite a tour-de-force; the science fictional element is merely a thread to tie together the outré family history and glimpses of life in an alien nation. His discovery of the story where "the mountain opened up" didn't sound quite so stfnal to me, however. Why, our local paper headline recently: "MT. SAINT HELEN'S TO OPEN FOR CLIMBERS."

I wouldn't mind hearing more of Dick's adventures in the coal seams {{ "Paradise" }}. I'm in the fossil fuels industry myself, although my desk job doesn't provide any fascinating experiences in the gas fields. Somehow, anecdotes about the office routine don't stack up...

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A. Langley Searles, Bronxville, New York
Dave Kyle's "Great Exclusion Act of 1939" suffers from the same fault he accuses Sam Moskowitz of showing in his The Immortal Storm -- it is incomplete. What he doesn't mention, among other things, is that most Futurians and Michelists didn't do much thinking for themselves; they just slavishly followed the Communist party line. They were pro-Fascist from the time Germany and the USSR signed a non-aggression pact and divided Poland until the Nazis attacked Russia. And as far as the excisions from Kyle's booklet, let me say that as editor of the magazine that published The Immortal Storm {{ ed. note: The Immortal Storm was originally serialized in Fantasy Commentator }}, I read these before publication and felt they added little substance to the points Sam was making. (I re-read them again in Mimosa, and see no reason to change my mind.) I can't help wondering why, if Kyle thinks they are so important, he never wrote to me when the abbreviated version first appeared? Did it take him 50 years to make up his mind?

{{ Well, we weren't aware of any statute of limitations for replying to a fanzine article, so it doesn't seem entirely fair to take Dave to task for waiting until now to write his own account of those events. }}

Sharon Farber's tales of medical school {{ "Tales of Adventure and Medical Life, Part II" }} were delightful, and I shall hand them over to my wife Alice (who happens to be a doctor) for her enjoyment. I note that Sharon encountered patients for the first time in her third year, which I think is late. Alice had in her freshman year a course titled "Introduction to the Patient" and always told me she was glad contact with "the real world" started that early.

Finally, thanks for printing your experiences with a cat in a motel {{ "Two-and-a-Half Months in a Hotel... With a Cat" }} My wife and I are cat people, and once had a household containing two Siamese and a Russian Blue, both now gone (as Sharon would say) to the Eternal ICU. Their place is now taken by a cat who found us (as cats are so adept at doing), a big, affectionate orange tiger male named Monty. When Monty can't snooze on our laps he does so beside my typewriter, which he is doing now, and if he could read and write I am sure he would add a few words of praise to Nicki for her enjoyable article.

{{ We regret to report the saddest, cruelest transition in this fanzine of transitions -- earlier this month we lost our cat Sesame to an unknown illness. She went anorexic soon after Thanksgiving and wasted away before our eyes. We still don't know what killed her, though we know lots of things it wasn't, among them FeLV, FIV, or anything that would affect her blood chemistry. It seems ironic that she could cope with a stressful cross-country move and three-month hotel stay so well, then yield to something so subtle we still don't (and may never) know what it was. We miss her a lot. Fortunately, we still have her companion cat that we adopted about a year ago from a vet clinic. }}

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Juanita Coulson, Hartford City, Indiana
Mimosa was a good read, as expected. Your stay at the motel sounds like the sort of thing that's interesting for a while but starts palling fairly rapidly -- then entering the increasing-impatience-to-escape stage. Up to a point, I don't mind new experiences, even when they're uncomfortable. But it's sort of like playing host to other people's kids (who of course haven't been as well trained as one's own): pleasant enough for short periods, followed by relief that they're not yours and will eventually be their parents' sole charge once more.

{{ Actually, the worst part about being in the hotel for so long was not being able to cook, and having to eat out all the time. It was also difficult for Nicki to job hunt with only a hotel phone number to give out. Most of the people who called back thought she actually worked for the hotel, rather than being a guest there. }}

Roger Weddall's reaction {{ ed. note: in the Letters column }} to Sharon's reminiscences prods me to assure him from a patient's point of view. No, all U.S. hospitals are not like the one she's describing. They come in wild varieties.

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Michael Waite, Ypsilanti, Michigan
You should be settled into your new home by now, which prompts me to ask, when is Mimosa going weekly? {{ Arrrrgh. }}

I'm looking forward to more cutting stories from the humorous scalpel of Ms. Farber. (Can you really hear the ocean through a stethoscope?)

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Buck Coulson, Hartford City, Indiana
Sharon Farber has the best material again this issue. Juanita says that once when she was visiting me in our hospital, a candy-striper came in and unhooked the heart patient who shared the room with me, saying "time for your (whatever)", and wheeled him out. A couple of minutes later, the head nurse came running in, stared at the empty bed, and asked, "Where did he go?" Juanita explained, and the nurse said that when the aide came back, she was to report to the nurses' station immediately. Apparently, the aide hadn't mentioned to the nurses about the (whatever -- bath, I think), and they had been watching the remote sensors. Suddenly all of his went dead, and when the nurse came to check, the patient had vanished.

{{ We received several letters detailing hospital anecdotes / horror stories like this. Maybe things are worse here than we thought.. }}

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David Haugh, Woodburn, Oregon
I really enjoyed the further adventures of Sharon Farber... as someone mentioned, there is something about being a medical student that guarantees a fund of stories. You also pulled quite a coup with an actual article by Harry Warner, jr. {{ "The House on Summit Avenue" }}, and not "just" a letter (which can be articles in themselves).

{{ We'll have another article by Harry next issue. }}

And of course, the Great Exclusion Act gave a great peek into early fandom... and I didn't need a ladder to reach the second story windows.

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Patty Peters, Dublin, California
Harry Warner, jr.'s article got me wondering if non-fans would be more understanding of fan clutter (paper in sundry forms) than of "crazy" people's rubberband, rag, hubcap, or lampshade collections. If something did/does happen, who would place any value on most of the things we find important enough to house? I know my parent's approach, because when they moved several years ago, all my books were given to the library or to Goodwill. I don't even want to consider how the moose collection would be interpreted.

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Brad W. Foster, Irving, Texas
I liked Harry's article. What with all the huge amounts of obvious trash moving out of that house, my first question to Harry was did he ever recall seeing a trash truck stop there while the couple still lived there? I mean, it sounds like they simply never took out their trash -- maybe that's why they wanted the flattened curb, to roll their trash out!

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Terry Broome, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
I couldn't make much sense of Dave Kyle's article, and the reprinted WARNING! is both embarrassing and tedious. From what I could understand, a group of fans disagreed about the running of the first World SF Convention, one group wanting the process to be democratic, the other oligarchic or even autocratic. Reading it, I can see why Moskowitz edited it and said most of what was left out was simple repetition, 'cos that's the way it came across to me. I can see why Kyle wanted to present his side of the story, but unless your readership is particularly interested in fanhistory or of the age to have been at that con, I wonder what the article was supposed to be saying to younger, less fannishly introspective fans like myself.

{{ Perhaps the article can be considered a cautionary tale about how events or ideas of one time can seem blown out of proportion to those who follow. Struggling to keep one or more "undesirables" out of a convention or club can lead to hard feelings and pain long after the oh-so-legitimate reasons have been forgotten or become unimportant. Until you've ever been involved in the strangeness of fannish feuds or parting of ways, you don't realize how something minor or transitory (to another) can become a major bruhaha. }}

So, a poor start after your wonderful opening comments about moving and the Mimosa tree {{ "Notes from the Second Floor" }}, but I was soon cheered up by Harry Warner jr,'s "The House on Summit Avenue". It is as marvelous and incredible a story as his "When Fanac Was a Four Letter Word" for Geogre Bondar's Marital Rats of Shaolin, a pure delight to read, in that gentle, smooth style of his that gives it that Indian Summer type of feel I like so much.

Nicki's closing comments about the move and life in the hotel counter-pointed the opening comments, and worked very well. I wondered how you could suffer the hotel for so long.

{{ So do we. However, with a cholce of either that or the street, you do adapt. We moved with such short notice, we had no time to find another house until we actually got here. }}

Finally, I loved the illustrations and the cartoons. Teddy Harvia's stuff is usually very funny, but I also particularly liked Charlie Williams's illustrations for Dick's and Sharon's pieces, and Steve Stiles's illos for Harry's article.

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Brian Earl Brown, Detroit, Michigan
The Pamphlet of Kyle's from the 1939 Worldcon is pretty interesting since so much of it appears to have been deleted from Moskowitz's account. It's good that Dave Kyle has finally seen to its reprinting in full, though its issues have long since become moot -- except for its warning about power-mongers among fans. That seems as timeless as ever.

{{ And as timely as ever, too. }}

Roger Sims's and Howard DeVore's play {{ "The Definitive Story of Numbered Fandoms" }} astounds me -- mostly because I haven't seen Howard write anything before except when minac and deadlines were hounding him. This was a nice little play, superbly illustrated by Kurt Erichsen, one of fandom's least known better artists.

{{ Big-Hearted Howard has lots of humorously anecdotal fan history tales he can tell, so we hope to see more by him here soon. }}

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Ladislav Peška, Slaný, Czechoslovakia
The article by Dave Kyle was interesting for me, because of the name of one of the participants in "The First Eastern Science Fiction Convention", William S. Sykora. Sykora is a typical Czech name. Would it be possible to get to know more about this fan? The only other American fan with a typical Czech name that I know about is Arthur Hlavaty.

{{ There are numerous references to William Sykora in Harry Warner's fanhistory of the 1940s, All Our Yesterdays. From it, we can deduce that he was an active convention fan; other than that we're somewhat in the dark ourselves -- we don't know if he's still active, or even alive for that matter. from what we've read, he would be a good subject for an article of fanhistorical interest for a future issue of Mimosa. }}

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P. L. Caruthers-Montgomery, Anniston, Alabama
Excellent Teddy Harvia front and back covers! He's doing wonders for the looks of fanzines everywhere -- not only with his inspired covers, but with his witty cartoons as well.

You're to be commended for your efforts to bring to light historical material not only on American fandom, but also for filling us in on the beginnings and early days of fandom in other parts of the world.

{{ Thanks! Fan history has always interested us, as do writings which demonstrate that SF fandom is more than Just an American phenomenon. }}

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Mike Glicksohn, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Well, the first of the northern Mimosas bears a striking resemblance to its antebellum ancestors, so evidently the move hasn't hurt your essential southern fannishness. Welcome to your new part of the country and I hope we'll continue to see a regular series of attractively designed, nicely printed, and interesting issues of your fanzine.

{{ So do we. }}

I knew the basic story of the 1939 Exclusion Act, but I don't believe I'd ever seen Dave's manifesto before, so that adds flesh to a previously skeletal piece of pivotal fanhistory. Whenever I get to thinking that maybe some fans are taking fandom too seriously, I shall recall this article and recognize that compared to the eo-fans we're all just simple dilettantes!

I'm in complete agreement with you and Leigh Edmonds on the importance of getting older fans to put their recollections into a more permanent form. Since I spend at least part of the midwest cons I go to hanging around with the likes of Sims and DeVore and Tucker and Hickman, I've heard many of their tall tales of early fannish exploits, but unless somewhere like Mimosa encourages these elder statesmen to either write articles or talk into tape recorders for later transcription, these aspects of our history are going to be lost as we gradually lose those who were a part of them. The SF Oral History Association is doing a good job of preserving current conventional fannish history, but Larry Tucker can't go around to room parties and record people just chatting about their own memories of fandom past. It's those parts of our very fragile history that most desperately need preserving. I applaud the job Mimosa is doing in this direction and hope you can get more Old Pharts to set their stories down for you. (Even if many of them do centre on that Ellison fellow, may his dangerous visions increase.)

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Skel, Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mike Glicksohn {{ ed. note: in the Letters column }} has a point about the prime purpose of a LoC being to return substantial amounts of egoboo to the editors and contributors, but I think he misrepresents that bit about "making the letter-writer appear clever or entertaining to readers of the subsequent issue...". I can't speak of a letter-writer wanting to appear clever, which I think a poor motive, but I sometimes try to write entertainingly, so perhaps I should explain why I take the trouble.

Partly of course it's a compulsion, and I can neither accept credit or blame for my endeavours in this regard, but there is another reason. Making the extra effort to present the egoboo entertainingly is in itself egoboo for the editor and contributor. The editor gets in effect a mini-contribution, something which will hopefully improve the quality of the lettercol (which Mike quite rightly sees as the "lifeblood of any good fanzine"). Mike surely would agree that letter-columns need to be carefully edited, and that there are few things more tedious than enormously long LoCcols that are full of dully-phrased LoCs doing nothing but doling out straight-forward egoboo to the editors and contributors.

You ran excerpts from 20 letters in Mimosa 6, presumably the ones that best suited your editorial requirements for that issue's letter column. You also WAHFed a further 30, and looking at some of the names involved it obviously wasn't because they didn't write interesting LoCs. You two got the editorial egoboo from those last 30 LoCs. I presume you xeroxed the contributors' egoboo and forwarded it to them, so they got their egoboo too. So from the point of view of yourselves and your contributors, strictly from the standpoint of receiving your due egoboo, you have no need to actually publish a letter column at all.

How then would Mike explain this? Everybody's got what they want from the LoCs, what he says they're mainly for, and yet there's no justification for a LoCcol which he sees as "the lifeblood of any good fanzine". There's a logic fault here somewhere. This program will not run. The lettercol therefore must achieve more than Mike's stated objectives... and it does. For the editors, it is a feature, a composite contribution in itself, serving the editor's purposes within that issue, and one of those purposes must be to entertain the readers. Thus a LoC that the writer has taken some extra trouble over, if it suits the editor's purposes, is therefore of more use to the editor, and hence more likely to be used, than one that was dashed off dutifully.

Another thing the editor wants to do is make as many of his or her readers feel as involved with the zine as possible, because readers who feel involved are more likely to respond in some way, and furthermore to respond more interestingly. Without the letter column in Mimosa 6 you involve 14 people (that's the 13 people in the contributors listing on page 14, plus Dave Rowe)... whereas with the letter column that number was increased to 34.

From the contributor's point of view, egoboo taken in public is much more satisfying than the equivalent egoboo taken in private, via xeroxes of unused LoCs. It's like actors taking a curtain call. We not only like to be appreciated, we like to be seen to be appreciated. We're all at least that insecure. I mean, it would be all very well for the Queen to take me aside at one of her garden parties and say, "Loved your article in Mimosa 7", but how much more satisfying if she were to pull out a sword and exclaim: "For services to fanac, arise Sir Skel!"

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Leland Sapiro, Waco, Texas
The current Mimosa is a true House of Horrors, it being hard to decide which account was more frightening: Sharon Farber's, of the callousness toward corpses at City Hospital; Dick Lynch's, of being nearly pulverized in Paradise; or Harry Warner's, of chopped-up corpses being crated out from the House Next Door. Or maybe this last was just plain ol' shit -- as hinted at by the editorial remark on Moving as a "cathartic experience".

On Sam Moskowitz's failure to reprint all of the '39 pamphlet -- the stuff he left out made no more sense than the stuff he didn't. In any case, the Futurians were not "excluded" in the sense of being unconditionally forbidden to enter -- but I'll refer you to Sam's book for more details.

Sims' and DeVore's account failed to record how First Fandom's Staples War terminated in the first Bob Tucker Death Hoax (yeah, there was a second a few years later) which resulted in Bob's being left out of Astounding's "Brass Tacks" for a long, long time. Talk about Grand Exclusion Acts!

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Charlotte Proctor, Birmingham, Alabama
Mimosa 6 arrived on Saturday and I immediately piled up in bed, fortified with Diet Pepsi, and read it from cover to cover. There are not many zines I do that with. I particularly enjoy following the tales of your lives. For some reason, I am very interested tn your life and times, I guess because you feel like family to me, and I rejoice in your good fortune and worry when things are in turmoil. Unlike family, however, you have never hit me up for a loan!

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We Also Heard From:
Eve Ackerman; Harry Andruschak; Lon Atkins; Martha Beck; Tony Berry; Lloyd Biggle, jr.; Sheryl Birkhead; Pamela Boal; Lester Boutillier; Ned Brooks; "Gary Brown"; Mike Christie; Richard Dengrove; Sharon Farber; Wade Gilbreath; Jenny Glover; Chuch Harris; Lee Hoffman; Steve Hughes; Alan Hutchinson; Ben Indick; Dave Kyle; Guy Lillian III; Ethel Lindsay; LynC; Jeanne Mealy; Norm Metcalf; Curt Phillips; Berislav Pinjuh; Marilyn Pride; Sarah Prince; Peggy Ranson; Deb Roe; Yvonne Rousseau; Robert Runte; Julius Schwartz; Michael Sinclair; Diana Stein; Sheila Strickland; Alan J. Sullivan; David Thayer; R Laurraine Tutihasi; B. Ware; Roger Weddall.

Thanks also to Sheryl Birkhead, for her help in printing, collating, and assembling both this issue and our previous issue. She has helped make the hardest part of fanzine publishing a lot less difficult.

Illustrations by Sheryl Birkhead, Brad Foster, Teddy Harvia & Phil Tortorici, Kurt Erichsen, Diana Stein, David Haugh, and William Rotsler

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